Love vs. Logic
This is deff. one of those conversations I have to save.. Sooo I'm coming back to blogger after o.0 5 months... =]
Longfellow300-Chris
Kaleybaby13-Me
longfellow300: i say this judging from the fact that he confessed his love to you through a text message after dating you for a week and a half
longfellow300: dont ask me why that stuck in my mind all this time
KaLeY BaBy 13: o.0
KaLeY BaBy 13: he didnt
KaLeY BaBy 13: what the fuck are you talking about
longfellow300: this was
longfellow300: forever ago
longfellow300: when you two just started goin out or whatever
longfellow300: and he was in some other state
longfellow300: he sent you a text
longfellow300: and said
longfellow300: something along the lines of
longfellow300: i love you... ur my world.. ur my everything.....
KaLeY BaBy 13: o.0
KaLeY BaBy 13: that wasnt a week an a half into it
KaLeY BaBy 13: yea
KaLeY BaBy 13: like
longfellow300: fairly close to it
KaLeY BaBy 13: i love you
KaLeY BaBy 13: i love WHO YOU ARE
KaLeY BaBy 13: never IN LOVE
KaLeY BaBy 13: theres a diffrence
KaLeY BaBy 13: see
KaLeY BaBy 13: i love you chris
KaLeY BaBy 13: but im not in love with you
longfellow300: no
longfellow300: i remember
longfellow300: the phrase
longfellow300: "you're my world"
KaLeY BaBy 13: i promise
KaLeY BaBy 13: that wasnt said when he was in kentucky
longfellow300: ok
longfellow300: i just remember thinking
longfellow300: after you showed me the text
longfellow300: "wow.. kinda soon for that"
KaLeY BaBy 13: you follow your head not your heart
KaLeY BaBy 13: you know that?
longfellow300: the heart is fickle
longfellow300: i prefer my head
longfellow300: it makes better decisions
KaLeY BaBy 13: not everyones
KaLeY BaBy 13: hearts differ my friend
longfellow300: the heart runs on emotions
longfellow300: the brain
longfellow300: on logic
longfellow300: emotions run hot and cold
longfellow300: but logic is the same no matter how you look at it
KaLeY BaBy 13: logic is also based on emotions proving why people have diffrent thoughts
longfellow300: umm
longfellow300: ummm
longfellow300: ummm
longfellow300: that makees noooooooo fucking sense whatsoever!!!!!
KaLeY BaBy 13: -.-;
KaLeY BaBy 13: also why they have diffrent beliefs
KaLeY BaBy 13: religons
KaLeY BaBy 13: it goes into more than just the surface of thinking
KaLeY BaBy 13: emotions effect every action or mood of a person
longfellow300: but they shouldnt
KaLeY BaBy 13: but they do
longfellow300: thats my point
KaLeY BaBy 13: thats how life is
KaLeY BaBy 13: thats how your body works
KaLeY BaBy 13: if you get mad chris
KaLeY BaBy 13: you get loud and you might hit things like i do
KaLeY BaBy 13: see
KaLeY BaBy 13: emotions effect every action or mood of a person
KaLeY BaBy 13: so you cant say
KaLeY BaBy 13: they shouldnt
KaLeY BaBy 13: when you do the same thing
KaLeY BaBy 13: jsut like
KaLeY BaBy 13: every breathing body on this planet
longfellow300: but that doesnt justify
longfellow300: making decisions based on emotions
KaLeY BaBy 13: yet you do it all the time
longfellow300: and i know that it is imperfect
longfellow300: and i try to keep my emotions in check
longfellow300: cuz they make me act in ways that i dont want to
KaLeY BaBy 13: SO how can you say " emotions shouldnt effect your decision making and the way you act"
KaLeY BaBy 13: it does
KaLeY BaBy 13: THATS logical thinking
KaLeY BaBy 13: YOU cant help it
KaLeY BaBy 13: if you get PISSED
KaLeY BaBy 13: your gonna ACT pissed
KaLeY BaBy 13: if your happy
KaLeY BaBy 13: YOUR GOING TO SMILE
KaLeY BaBy 13: if feel like your in love
KaLeY BaBy 13: THEN by god your in love
KaLeY BaBy 13: simple
longfellow300: im not going to argue with you on this point
longfellow300: becuase
KaLeY BaBy 13: why not?
longfellow300: i cant type as fast
KaLeY BaBy 13: ill slow down
longfellow300: however
KaLeY BaBy 13: go ahead
KaLeY BaBy 13: i wanna know
KaLeY BaBy 13: however?
longfellow300: i will concede
longfellow300: that emotions dictate our actions
longfellow300: but
longfellow300: decisions made purely on emotions
longfellow300: are not typically the most sound
KaLeY BaBy 13: okay
KaLeY BaBy 13: what makes you think
KaLeY BaBy 13: love is such a bad thing?
KaLeY BaBy 13: why is it not logical
KaLeY BaBy 13: YET
KaLeY BaBy 13: everyone
KaLeY BaBy 13: EVERY fucking one
KaLeY BaBy 13: who lives out their life
KaLeY BaBy 13: will become in love with someone
KaLeY BaBy 13: why fight it?
KaLeY BaBy 13: love is based on the brain and heart btw
longfellow300: im not saying fight love
longfellow300: im saying
KaLeY BaBy 13: but
KaLeY BaBy 13: chris
KaLeY BaBy 13: this is about lvoe
KaLeY BaBy 13: this is
KaLeY BaBy 13: what started this conversation
longfellow300: LET ME FUCKING FINISH!!!!
longfellow300: im saying
longfellow300: that one cant just jump into
KaLeY BaBy 13: *cowers*
longfellow300: it
longfellow300: one has to give it consideration
longfellow300: its easy to be washed away in the current
longfellow300: and then you end up washed up on some desolate shore in the middle of nowhere
longfellow300: you have to build a boat
longfellow300: not go for a swin
longfellow300: swim
longfellow300: so to speak
longfellow300: there
longfellow300: done
KaLeY BaBy 13: when did this become an episode of survior..
longfellow300: -.-
longfellow300: it was a metaphor
KaLeY BaBy 13: i know
KaLeY BaBy 13: but see
KaLeY BaBy 13: there is a diffrence between love
KaLeY BaBy 13: and puppy love
KaLeY BaBy 13: YOU see everyone who claims they are in love
KaLeY BaBy 13: as if they was infatuated
KaLeY BaBy 13: whyy cant two 16 year olds be in love?
KaLeY BaBy 13: in real love
longfellow300: thats a fair question
longfellow300: but
longfellow300: i dont think that 2 16 year olds can be in love because
longfellow300: i dont think either of them have the capacity to interperet thier emotions at that age
longfellow300: hormonal imbalances run rampant
longfellow300: at that age
longfellow300: and one is easily infatuated
longfellow300: ALSO
longfellow300: i dont believe that love has time enought to develope in the course of a few months
longfellow300: more like years
longfellow300: love is
longfellow300: kind of
longfellow300: like
longfellow300: *starts talking about what he doesnt really know about too well*
longfellow300: being able to be with someone and HATE thier guts
longfellow300: and still not be able to see a life without them
longfellow300: or something
KaLeY BaBy 13: annndd 16 year olds cant do that?
KaLeY BaBy 13: i cant say i hate ethan
KaLeY BaBy 13: but i dunno what id do if he up and left the state
KaLeY BaBy 13: id prolly follow 0.0
KaLeY BaBy 13: love - a feeling of warm personal attachment or deep affection, as for a parent, child, or friend.
KaLeY BaBy 13: where does reasoning and affection cross?
longfellow300: it seldom does
KaLeY BaBy 13: give an example
KaLeY BaBy 13: when the two cross
KaLeY BaBy 13: ya cant can ya
longfellow300: i can
longfellow300: when you understand that this person can work for you and that this is the best person to ever be in your life
longfellow300: andDDDD
longfellow300: have enought life experience to have more than 6 or 7 boy friends previous
KaLeY BaBy 13: r u refering to me
longfellow300: no
longfellow300: im refering
longfellow300: to your average 16 y/0
longfellow300: who
longfellow300: has very few serious relationships
longfellow300: then a good guy comes along
longfellow300: and they LOOOOVVVVEEEEEE
longfellow300: him
longfellow300: and they know that he is the best thing they have ever seen
longfellow300: but they are comparing him to only what they have already known
longfellow300: instead of what is actually out there
KaLeY BaBy 13: what about
KaLeY BaBy 13: the ones
KaLeY BaBy 13: who have several serious relationships
KaLeY BaBy 13: and they LOOOOOVVVEEE their current
longfellow300: agian
longfellow300: a 16 y/o
longfellow300: hasnt had enough time to have had several seious relationships
KaLeY BaBy 13: 2
KaLeY BaBy 13: why not
longfellow300: nor the maturity to carry that many out
KaLeY BaBy 13: why cant a 16 year old have two serious relationships
KaLeY BaBy 13: that both were in for a year
longfellow300: i belive that the maturity to carry out a serious relationship
longfellow300: comes with age
IM GETTING SICK OF HIM TALKING ABOUT MATURITY AND CAPACITY LEVELS. We arn't fucking babies, we don't walk around in dipers going when we please. Good god. This boy acts like he has room to freaking talk... ---> Continue
longfellow300: the age of just around 16 or 17
KaLeY BaBy 13: how can you know this?
longfellow300: depending on the person
KaLeY BaBy 13: your what? 17
KaLeY BaBy 13: how can you know this
KaLeY BaBy 13: thats right
KaLeY BaBy 13: YOU DONT
KaLeY BaBy 13: and may i say why
longfellow300: thatdslpSK;G BHRL;H BKSAD'LFBH
KaLeY BaBy 13: because my friend
KaLeY BaBy 13: you havnt been in that situation
KaLeY BaBy 13: you havnt ever began to felt what its like to be in love
longfellow300: thats why i said BELIEVE
KaLeY BaBy 13: cause youve never been givin the chance
longfellow300: DONT GO THERE
KaLeY BaBy 13: so YOU CANT state that 16 year olds cant love AS A FACT
KaLeY BaBy 13: NO
KaLeY BaBy 13: YOU PUSHED ME THERE
KaLeY BaBy 13: YOUR TELLING ME
KaLeY BaBy 13: IM NOT IN LOVE
longfellow300: I HAVE GIVEN IT A CHANCE
longfellow300: and i had my heart crushed with stillheto heel
longfellow300: because
longfellow300: i wasnt mature enough to see that i was just infatuated
KaLeY BaBy 13: no
KaLeY BaBy 13: the woman you were with , wasnt looking for the same thing you were
KaLeY BaBy 13: it takes two
KaLeY BaBy 13: TWO PEOPLE
KaLeY BaBy 13: looking FOR THE SAME THING
KaLeY BaBy 13: inorder to be in love
KaLeY BaBy 13: ONE perosn cant be looking for love and the other be looking for some ass
KaLeY BaBy 13: it doesnt work like that
KaLeY BaBy 13: and thats where you get your logcial statistics from
longfellow300: no shit
KaLeY BaBy 13: AVERAGE 16 year olds ONLY WANT SEX AND LUST
KaLeY BaBy 13: thats an AVERAGE
KaLeY BaBy 13: that is NOT every fucking teenager out there
KaLeY BaBy 13: SO PLEASE
KaLeY BaBy 13: all im asking
KaLeY BaBy 13: IS DONT SPEAK FOR EVERYONE
longfellow300: fine
longfellow300 signed off at 11:13:52 PM.
Yeah, thats right. This boy is basing alllll his information on what he has been through. This boy, went through one bad relationship... The girl freaking turned lesbian on him!!! && I know this girl.. Chris might of been looking for love but that word was farrrrrr from mind to this girl.. I just hate people like him; like how I used to be. I hate people who see love as something only old folks can do. && It pisses me off even more that he states that a 16 year old cant love AS A FACT... Thats not a fact?! Not when its disproven everyday... Not when he's got a couple sitting infront of his face in love and totally aginst everything he says... && I come to the conclusion.. I should just let it go. Cause everyone has a diffrent perspective on love... Its rare to find two people who believe in the same damn thing. Cause as that conversation was going on. I was talking to someone on the side , who he brought up love (because him and his 4 year girlfriend just broke up) and he stated that love is perfect. Thats BULLSHIT.. Love is far from perfect. If your love life is perfect. Nothing has ever went wrong, then its not true love.. Because you'e got to be able to be with that person threw THICK and thin, NOT just thin... Once you've roughed it out with your sweetie, then you can say you really truely love them... I'm done.
posted by Kaley at 12:38 PM
1 Thougts:
I just read your conversation with Chris about love, and I'll admit, I lol'ed a few times.
And I guess I have comments.
But before I start, I want a few things clear
One: I respect Chris
Two: I respect his beliefs, and his opinion
And with that said - I'm entitled to my own.
So anyway..
Logic VS Love.
I don't see why it has to be a war.
The first thing that comes to mind is Penguins, who have one mate. For life.
They meet randomly, and they do their thing, and they have a child.
There is no building your boat.
You dive right in. A leap of faith.
But it justifies your saying about how both people must be set on the same thing.
Now, knowing Chris and his stance on this, he'd say that thats perfectly logical. Penguins don't know any better. Thats how penguins work.
Whatever, right.
No. Seriously. Right.
That is how they work.
And how do we work?
Well, before I go there.
Chris.
He speaks about maturity levels, and a 16 year old's capacity to understand their own emotions.
These are his beliefs, and none the less, but mine vary slightly.
I believe maturity levels are based on experience.
There are immature 40 year olds.
So why is it so illogical to have a mature 16 year old?
Its illogical, to me, to believe every person who says their in love; to actually BE in love.
And since I base maturity levels on experience, I also believe ones capacity to interpret their own emotions can only be done with experience.
As Chris put it, a girl with a few random boyfriends is hardly able to say she knows much.
But whos to say shes completely unaware? Logic? The area is far too wide, and the topic at hand is vague. We know nothing of this girl except what her actions portray.
And I guess, with logic in mind, serious relationships would equal more experience.
Wouldn't it?
I don't believe so.
There are different types of experiences. Different people with different relationships.
I'll, hopefully with endorsement, use Chris as an example.
I don't know much, but I'll try.
Chris dated a girl, who in turn left him and went lesbian.
While thats.. pretty brutal, its the experience Chris can call his own.
Initially, Chris seemed somewhat bitter about this. And he seems bitter to love in general.
But at this moment, hes involved in a relationship with a girl I've personally been VERY close to.
A girl I thought was right for me. And still might.
But, logically, he should be able to tell us that his relationship with her is purely infatuation.
That his hormones are the center of his actions that brought them together.
Is he willing to blame hormones, as he did to you? Or will he argue a different story - a story that experience is currently giving him.
We can argue all day about maturity levels, capabilities, emotional understanding and believes.
But the fact is.. thats all it is..
Arguing.
Debating.
And if two people have a mind set of love, who are we to ague against it?
Logically, we can only look on with our own disgusting, invisible, and unheard thoughts.
And, not a stab at Chris.. but.. if a 16 year old is too young to build "love", who is a 17 year old (with admitted little experience) to make that statement? Isn't that a contradiction?
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